Saturday, 10 November 2012

Gold Cup - Quarter Final

Fifa 13 Scripting - Post 10

I hadn't been on FIFA for over a week at the point of writing this because Assassins Creed 3 was keeping me completely occupied but now I have finished it I decided it was time for a bit of FIFA. 

I started by jumping straight into a cup match. I worked play around at the beginning and scored a nice goal with Neymar at the end of a long passing build up 1-0 to me. Ten minutes later he scores at the near post from 15 yards out. I hate how they have made it so easy to score there this year 1-1 coincidentally on the 45th minute. 

For the next 20 minutes I hit the post 3 times and had multiple scrambles in the box that the keeper always saved and I said to my mate who was watching the match at the time "I bet he gets a goal on his first attack" and what do you know he did a curler on his weak foot from the corner of the box into the far corner of the net a good goal but would that have ever really gone in? I don't know. Anyway 2-1 to him. I pull another back due to a mistake by him throwing the ball out to me with his keeper 2-2. 

85th minute arrives he scores due to two of my defenders running into each other and the ball bouncing into his oncoming attacker who just taps it away nice and easy. Then again I said "I bet this will end 3-3 to make it exciting" and what do you know I scored probably one of the easiest goals I ever have done by literally walking it from the halfway line and just turning around all his players and scoring a tap in.

So now it is extra time and I wasn't quite sure where the game would go now, would it go in his favour or mine? Within that first half of extra time I scored 2 more goals nothing spectacular just easy goals because my players were so open and he then quit final score 5-3 to me.

I wasn't celebrating because I knew throughout the 90 minutes exactly what was going to happen and when it would all I could do was shake my head and laugh in disappointment. At this point I switched off FUT and loaded up my career mode as Fleetwood Town because it is actually more fun to play.

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16 comments:

  1. scripting is very much alive in fifa 13 indeed. I'm nowhere near the best player in the world, but I'm pretty sure of my abilities and so far I've won at least every cup available in FUT at least once, but the way I seem to lose cups keeps getting more and more frustrating. Last night I won the daily invitational because of scripting. And I sucked ass. the other guy was actually a lot better than me, tricked me out a few times and kept on scoring, but whenever I hit one L1 triangle pass it landed immediately and my player hit the net. eventually I won 7-5, ridiculous. this morning I'm trying to win the same cup and I go against this guy who isn't better at all, but somehow every shot I take fails miserably. and I'm really not doing anything differently in terms of the way I'm shooting at goal or whatever. But we could talk about this all day, those money grabbing slutbags at EA won't ever change it. It sucks that I already spent too much money on the game (about 95 euros, 45 for the game, 40 for fifa points. and that's just me, some guys spent WAY more than that) to quit, but whenever PES gets a kind of Ultimate team without this crap I'm definitely switching. At least I'm convinced enough now that I won't ever spend another dime on packages again. In conslusion I'll leave with two nice examples of fixed games, sad thing is that I could literally post about a hundred of these, as it happens pretty much all the time after I win about 3 or 4 matches:
    http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8068/8181965557_406a47fcc3_z.jpg
    http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8478/8181965219_71805ecea4_z.jpg

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    1. Thats very true, the issue for me though is that I probably would never switch back to PES again mainly because, even though this year it is slightly flawed, the overall experience of playing FIFA is far greater than PES. However, I am definately not putting any more money into FUT because of what it has become this year.

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  2. Here I go again, today I payed FUT seasons division 1 with my best team rated at 84 100% chemistry top manager etc, my opponent had a very average team rated at 77 with 97 % chemistry, from the very beginning of the match I noticed how slow and silly the movements of my players were, they did not feel smooth, first touch was terrible for players with ball control over 85, they felt like a rubbish bronze players, I already knew the game was going to be a nightmare, and in fact it was. The guy scored 2 magical goals from corner kicks with Giovinco scoring headers on top of Dedé who did not want to participate in the action (he was literally facing to another side and not paying attention to the ball). I tried to relax changed my tactics to try to gain momentum and see if there was something I could do to make my team better I started passing the ball around having a lot of possession but my players were passing the ball very bad, players with passing abilities over 80 making mistakes in simple short passes and his players were defending very close and aggressive stealing the ball very easy from my players. During the second half I could attack a little and I was 2 times one on one with the goal keeper but my strikers with a finishing of 90 could not put the ball in the back of the net, the ball was always miles away or saved incredibly well for a very average goal keeper with diving of 79, he ended up scoring 2 more easy goals one was a gift from my keeper when kicking the ball, and the second was a shot from almost midfield that my gk rejected but it went straight to my opponent's striker that was free of mark and easily scored, final result 4-0. After the match I asked the guy for a rematch and since he was super confident about himself after an easy 4-0 win he accepted, this time I decided to use my silver team, unsurprisingly everything turned around I was beating him 6-0 and he ended up quitting the match, so just wanted to give one more proof of the obvious scripting/handicap situation that we are all suffering, I am not enjoying playing FUT 13 anymore since I know that at least in 60% of the matches there is a very strong cpu intervention to favor one of the teams, and even winning it does not make me enjoy the game, thanks!!!

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    1. That's the point I think people are trying to make. A lot of players who don't believe in scripting blame it on bad players, sore losers and poor excuses but thats not it at all.

      Even when a result goes in your favour you know if you have received help from the game or not, you can sense it and this doesn't make the game anymore fun in the slightest.

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    2. What I am doing and I think everyone of us should do is that every time the scripting favors us with an easy win we should text our rival and let them know so they will believe us and more people will open their eyes to this issue, thanks!!!

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    3. I already do that, when I notice I'm being favored I apologize in advance, some ppl don't wanna hear it and still continue screaming and cursing, other can only agree. the only reason I'm still playing is that I love the game when the stuff I want to do actually happens. When I can tear a defense to pieces with my passing game it is brilliantly fun, but I dunno how much longer I can put up with the "scripting interventions", even if they work in my favor

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    4. This scripting Issue has always been in FUT but I think it is more noticeable this year because you don't get the chance to choose your rival by Team Stats or by when the rival team was established, in older versions if you noticed your rival had an over rated team you could quit also if you noticed that your rival was FUT Founder. By contrast this year it is not possible to do that, so there is more likely to have games between teams with very different rated teams, that is why the handicap/scripting is more evident and also because the CPU has more ways to screw your team like the first touch feature, anyway let's hope we can be heard from more people and EA Sports finally do something about this, they could even create something like arcade and simulation mode or something like that so you can choose if you want to play games where the cpu has the power to create momentum or screws teams randomly or if we want to play just a normal game based on the real abilities of the players without the cpu creating any momentum or screwing any teams, thanks!!!

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  3. yeah already opted that there should be a feature before the match where both players can choose wether they want scripting/momentum/whatever to be active or not, that way players needing help can play with it and players who don't want any can play without it. I also very much dislike that you can't see if your opponent is a FUT founder anymore, because I'm pretty sure the scripting favours them more than the rest of us. I always win first rounds versus FUT founders somehow, but never a semi final or final. this morning I experienced a very nice example of momentum again. I knew I was gonna lose the semi final (or at least final) of the Movember cup because it was only my second try (last time the daily invitational took my 5 finales to win it, and then scripting favoured me WAY too much) I tried switching tactics through the entire game like explained somewhere below here, and it worked in the sense that I was able to keep him away from my goal, but whenever I came in front of his goal my players lost the ability to finish altogether. post, crossbar, weak as f@*# shots, you name it. I took this screenie before the start of the second half of extra time because I knew he would miraculously OR hit his first shot on goal or at least win the penalties with miraculous fingertip saves of his goalie. I got a corner in the first 2 mins of extra time, ofcourse this meant a breakout for him, the very fast beasley went into the left corner and crossed the ball to lukaku who ofcourse never loses a heading duel, even if it's versus chiellini. and especially not in clutch time. now people will say, lukaku is a beast etc, but he'd been losing duels the entire game until that point :/. got so frustrated I forgot to take the result screenie, but here's the one up until the second half of extra time (I should notice that I played with my best serie A team (handanovic-armero/chiellini/vidal/jonathan-hamsik/marchisio/pato-giovinco/cavani/biabiany) and he played with a beasty silver BPL team)
    http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8345/8184914068_0525cccd9b_z.jpg

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    1. Hi Ricardo, I do not think CPU helps the FUT Founders, what I have found so far actually points in the opposite direction, the higher your level is in FIFA the less help you get from the CPU, by instance if you are a new player with a bronze team you will get a lot of help, if you are a new player with a 84 rated team you will get a little bit of help, if you are a FUT Founder with a team rated over 80 you will get screwed very often but if you are a FUT Founder with a silver or bronze team you could get a little bit of help depending on your opponent, so for people with FIFA levels over 40 or 50 the only way to get help from the cpu is having low rated teams, that is what I have been able to get from my experimentation so far, thanks..

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    2. well maybe the fut founder thing is a little far fetched/paranoia from my part. just frustrated to lose to them all them time in (semi) finals when they're not even playing well. I definitely agree with the other stuff in your post. It's a money grabbing catch 22 basically. you start out with a crap team, but you'll win some nice matches, just almost never a tournament/cup or something like that, so you start thinking, well, I should get a better team. so you start building a monster team. but as you do, your opponents start getting stronger as well. And before you know it, those teamspirit < 60 opponents are long gone and you'll want even better players and start hoping for IFs (which work even worse). All the while, everyone who's making money of the game in EA HQ is circle jerking like crazy and sucking each other off as they get richer and richer of simple souls who can't help themselves. Well I refuse to cooperate. I'll keep playing Fifa 13 because I like building awesome teams and winning cups, but if the gameplay doesn't change I won't be back for Fifa 14

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  4. back once again, but now with even better RIDICULOUS proof. today I entered the Movember cup for the I don't know how many-est time. Since I started posting here I'm not even allowed to get to the semi finals, I'm really getting paranoid :). Anyway, I played a quarter final with my german team (who are OK I guess) against a pretty equal BPL team. after about 20 minutes he's up by 1-0 eventhough I've been attacking like crazy. after this I don't get even NEAR his goal. tried everything but it wouldn't happen. Then in the 75th minute he tries to outplay my rightwinger (blsazzsczscszyjowzschy) with his goalie (maybe he felt confident I dunno), but this fails. I take the ball and make it 1-1. then in the 87th minute something happened that has NEVER happened before so far. He tries a through ball but my CB is faster and I head it back to my goalie like I've done a million times already, but instead of just taking the ball in his hands, he passes it back into his own net :D :D :D. I mean COME ON. Seriously!?!?! :D I filmed the replay in slowmo with my phone, watch it on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbDUPNPgT1o

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  5. woah, I noticed something today: In FIFA 12 you could see your opponents teamspirit etc when playing single games, so at one point I kept moving players around to mess up my team spirit in order to get weak players to accept my games. Then when the game started I put everyone back in the right place and then I tried playing the game but somehow the team would still play like sh*t, so I just continued with normal formations and all was better. I remembered that today because since a while now I've been getting the feeling that EVERY game has been scripted in my disadvantage. I seriously haven't won 2 games in a row since about 2/3 weeks, and mostly because of scripting. Now I know it was there before, but I couldn't for the life of me understand why it now targeted me so much more often. I actually became a little paranoid (see comments above :P). but today I noticed that I've been stuffing my bench with very bad bronze players in order to get a lower star rating for pretty much the same time the loss streak has been going on. So today I restored my teams, just put "normal" players on the bench so a for instance 83 rated team would actually still be rated 83 instead of 79 or something. And it worked! I've won 7 of my 8 games since I tried this, and even the one I lost was kind of my own fault, at least I didn't feel cheated out of a victory! haven't played a cup yet yet, so dunno how it's gonna affect the scripting in there, but at least I can win again :) (I was VERY close to already buying PES)

    so just get your team a fair rating and the scripting will be fair as well?? hopefully this helps someone :)

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    1. Everytime tha you are losing many games in a row and you change your team, it seems to help your team, but it does not last for too long, there are many factors that affect your team performance including some random ones, like your opponent team, so sometimes it is a little unpredictible, however what I have described in my previous posts is what seems to be more consistent, with my teams behaviour, according to the way how it was programmed by ea sports, thanks!!

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